Thai Mistresses – Lessons from Suchat the Butcher
Here I’m going to touch upon the subject of sponsoring Thai girlfriend. Or keeping a mistress in Thailand. Whatever you want to call it. You’ll learn about the cost and what to expect from one of my best friend with five Thai girlfriends.
He’s a married Thai guy that I’ve known for awhile with lots to teach about paid relationships with Thai girls.
These are also valuable advice for guys looking to sponsor a Thai girlfriend, or two. Or dare I say three Thai faen or gik at one time.
Difference Between a Thai Faen (แฟน) and Thai Gik (กิ๊ก)
Faen is a multi-purpose word. Depending on the context of usage, it means wife, husband, girlfriend, boyfriend and lover. Doesn’t matter what type of gender relationship, you can still refer to a ladyboy as a faen.
Gik is a loose term for fuck buddy. For foreigners we can have a gik relationship with a Thai. But nothing is really free for us here, right?
For Thai guys they really do get to fuck horny Thai girls for free. What do you expect? It’s their territory.
Good News is, it’s Affordable(ish)
Keeping mistresses is Thailand is very common. I know guys from all over the world that have at least one mistress at one point or another. Because it’s affordable.
Not cheap.
But manageable for most guys living on a decent pension or passive incomes.
I’ve had my fair share of mistresses in Thailand even when I was married. Hey, I never said I was a saint.
I could only deal with one Thai girlfriend on the side though. I have no idea how Thai guys manage more than two at one time. Thai guys have it down to an art form.
If you’re considering having a mistress in Thailand, consider some of Suchat the Butcher’s advice. For 30 years Suchat has learned a lot of mistakes about sponsoring Thai girls.
Not too shabby for a guy that looks like he should be unloading coconut trucks for a living.
Introducing Suchat the Butcher
I became good friends with my local butcher shop owner named Suchat. But he’s not just any normal Thai butcher you see. This guys got connections with a Thai-French beef supplier. Which is unique since Suchat’s butcher shop is inside a Thai wet market near my home. He’s my hero for that reason alone.
Having mia noi (เมียน้อย) second wife or mistress is common in all levels of Thai social economic level. From poor, to super rich and all the jack asses in between. Yes, there are Thai guys that don’t even have two baht to rub together. Yet miraculously have two Thai wives.
Suchat only has one wife with a bonafide marriage certificate. On the side, he has five mistresses. That’s six women in total he’s taking care of financially.
He doesn’t even have to actively seek out Thai girls. They go to him. Like flies to fresh cut meat (his words, not mine). Even though he’s not considered a handsome guy like me. Though like me, he’s in his early 50’s. Except he’s got a few strands of hair on his head he combs over. He’s 160cm tall and 90kg with Thai tattoos decorating his body from neck to toe.
Wrapped around his head are half a dozen Thai amulets. Some facing the front, and some facing the back for protection against whatever.
Though Suchat does hang out at local watering holes where guys can pick and choose girls to keep them company. It’s at one of these places where I bumped into Suchat and since then I’ve been learning more ways to get even sleazier in Thailand.
I know keeping a gaggle of Thai women is a monumental task. Sure, having money helps. But dealing with a bunch of needy gold diggers is not easy. Because Thai women are super competitive when it comes to keeping the alpha male.
He still has the stamina to mess around the local brothels though.
15,000 Baht a Month
Besides his wife, 15,000THB is the amount of money Suchat pays each and every one of his kept woman. Of course Suchat has favorites so sometimes he would add a bit extra here and there. But according to Suchat, 15,000THB is the baseline rate he hands out when they agree to be under his mistress.
However, Suchat has to pay for their housing. His wife lives with him at his main residence. He has a few townhomes so he houses a few there. The remaining ladies he rents studio condos for each.
Each condo rental cost 10,000THB including water and electricity. He tells me his ladies always ask for cars. But he thinks women shouldn’t be driving. At least that’s the answer he gives them.
So a base salary of 15,000THB plus roughly 10,000THB for housing. That’s 25,000THB times five mistresses is 125,000THB. Not including all the extra cost.
Supply and Demand
Gold digging Thai women have their own version of the rat race. In a country of Buddhist values where modesty is upheld, brand name luxury goods rule supreme. Thai women are obsessed over brand name designer foreign luxury products.
Prada, Louis Vuittons and Chanel brand and many other pompous luxury brand goods are highly prized and valued in the eyes of Thai women. But these items come with a big price tag, especially in Thailand where foreign luxury goods are taxed heavily.
For Thai women with not much going for them except their looks, without a high paying job the quickest way to acquire these goodies is to open their legs in exchange for cash, jewelry or said gifts.
Finding a sugar daddy with free spending cash for ladies in Thailand is a sport. But men like Suchat are not everywhere. And they are spoilt for choices. So Thai women looking for a man to take care of them really have to have their looks work in their favor.
Keeping Peace in the House – Suchat’s Rules
You’re probably wondering how the hell does Suchat keep the peace with the women in his harem. You’d think the catfights would drive him nuts. But he’s learned a lot and even developed 5 laws he lays down on the women that agree to his demands.
Suchat’s 5 Rules
- Leave if you don’t like the arrangement.
- Start a fight with the other girls and you’re out.
- Don’t call me. I’ll call you. Otherwise leave a text message.
- You’ll get an agreed amount allowance. Don’t ask for more.
- If you get pregnant without permission, get out but give me the baby over.
Suchat sounds like such a dick don’t he?
Well that’s because he started keeping minor wives since he was 25 years old. He’s picked the habit up from his dad which I once met before he past away. Suchat’s dad had seven wives. Unlike junior, senior didn’t have to lay down rules. He just beats the women if they get step an inch out of line.
In the span of 30 years Suchat’s picked up a lot of knowledge in keeping peace in the house. Including his sanity. Because today he’s too old for drama. And as a youngster watching women get beat by his drunk dad traumatized him to the core.
To this day he promised he’d never lay a hand on a lady. And this is a guy that chops and grinds meat for a living.
So he laid the rules down on day one so that there’s no take backs and regrets.
If You Don’t Want Kids You Better Make it Very Clear
Though his last rule about having an unwanted pregnancy makes him sound like soulless douche bag. He actually loves the children he has through mistresses. But his point his both parties have to agree before letting the pregnancy happen.
Some girls think they’re clever and get off the pill so that they get pregnant. In their minds they think this would keep a stronger hold on the men. There are nasty cases where children are kept as a bargaining chip in which Suchat had to pay big money to get back. Which in Suchat’s cases be the wrong move.
But he desperately wanted to keep the children. Because he knows he’s the one who can take care of the child’s welfare better than a woman that doesn’t want to work for a living. He even sends his kids to the best school’s he can afford. See ,he’s not a cold heartless as you thought.
Because Suchat knows he’s got the all powerful leverage, cold hard cash.
One Thing to Rule Them All
Suchat is in a position where the local women know he’s a successful businessman. He has a reputation for keeping and sponsoring women and providing them with cash and gifts. That’s why he attracts a lot of gold digging whores.
He’s not stupid. He realizes that women currently putting up with him aren’t with him for his youth, looks, wit and charm. If he wasn’t born into the family business he would never get women lining up to lick his sweaty balls after chopping up pig carcass.
But his business although small has earned him a good living and choice picks of hot local girls, that don’t want to work and stay at home with a bit of cash for shopping.
For a 50 year old Thai man, he’s living the good life.
Tips from Suchat: Even if you’ve got a lot of money to sponsor girls, keep your common sense.
The Kind of Women Suchat Keeps
Suchat attracts women that love money and status. Which is counter intuitive to the teachings of Buddha in which a vast majority of Thais believe in. But that’s just the way the cookie crumbles in Thailand.
Obviously, the majority of women Suchat keeps in his circle come from poor family backgrounds. With limited education and not a lot of choice pick of jobs nor the penchant to work, they look for a man. Or men to throw money and goods at them in exchange for sex and companionship.
These women also think they’re living in some real life low brow soap opera. I’m not kidding. Soap operas play a major influence in Thai women’s psyche.
That’s not to say Suchat only sponsors women dumb as rocks. He’s kept studying hospital nurses, civil servants and oh yes, Thai university students making their way into the real world.
He’s shown photos of the girls he’s sponsored. Many were just average ordinary girls. Though some were real gorgeous. The beautiful Thai girls he sponsors he had to put some real effort into. And when I mean effort I mean more money.
Tips from Suchat: It never lasts.
Girls Come and Go
Suchat knows that the extra women he keeps won’t stay with him forever. He doesn’t get too attached to all of them though there are a few that he really enjoys in the long run.
The reality is according to Suchat and common sense, is that when one of his girls find another man that can make her life just one percent better she’d leave Suchat in a heart beat. Which has happened so he’s used to it.
When one leaves, it’s not too long he finds another.
Sure, there are girls that never want to leave. There could be a genuine reason why they wouldn’t. There could be cases where women have fallen madly in love with him.
Tips from Suchat: You don’t lose your girl. You only lose your turn.
Thai Girls Are Fiercely Competitive
In the West, whenever a wife or a girlfriend finds out you’ve been unfaithful you get divorced. Such as my case.
Here in Thailand if a Thai man gets caught cheating by his old girl, then the old girl goes after the new girl. And when all the preceding ladies in the chain gets whiff and smells first blood then there’s a chain reaction of cat fights, name callings and whining and complaining on Facebook.
You might think Thai girls are demure and non-confrontational. Especially when a girl you currently sponsor finds out you are housing another girl to suck your dick.
The truth is, they’re not going to go after you directly. They’ll scream at each other like harpies with syphilis.
There’s a very good reason why Suchat never ever lets his mistresses meet each other. Because they’d have the balls to jump and suck his dick in front of everyone to lay their claim to Suchat. Come to think of it, that’s not bad at all.
In Thai news there are numerous stories of infidelity though no one ever really points fingers at the guys caught in a love triangle.
Tips from Suchat: Never let the ladies get together. You’ll regret it.
Biggest Advice You’ll Get from Suchat
I’ve been telling Suchat about the shit that happens to foreigners dating Thai women. He knows it can work out. His eldest sister married a guy from Holland and they’ve got several kids and everything looks happy with them.
But when I tell him about the shit that happens with foreigners and Thai girls he’s not surprised. And news reports like this Frenchman got killed as a result from a quarrel with a Thai girlfriend floats around in the news cycle.
Suchat says he would never, ever get involved with Thai bar girls. According to him, they’ve got too much emotional and relationship baggage issues.
But he understands most foreigners don’t have a lot of chances or choices finding “normal” Thai girls. Especially older foreigners like me.
His biggest advice is, if you can’t find a Thai girl, then don’t force a relationship by sponsoring a Thai girl. Especially if you can’t afford to.
Because You’re Responsible
15 years ago one of Suchat’s mia noi was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. It was caught too late and she died within a month. During that month she was hospitalized he covered the cost of her stay and care. And in the end he paid for her funeral also.
Even though Suchat’s got money his mia noi had no medical insurance. So it was on Suchat entirely to cover the expenses. Though he’s got money he said the cost was high and put a dent in his bank account. But he’s got a successful business so he can recover.
C
September 26, 2019 @ 6:03 pm
I found your site during my first time to Thailand. I found most of your articles are informative and amusing. This one is hiliarous XD
Jimmy
September 26, 2019 @ 8:55 pm
Thank you and cheers mate!
Erik
August 12, 2019 @ 2:43 am
Question i don´t know if this falls under Thai mistress or not but here goes.
Lets say you go to Thailand and maybe would be interested in what we here in the west refers to as a sugar baby for maybe a week maybe 2 maybe 3 (which would include sex).
Are there any specific sites that is better at this if that is what you are seeking?
Jimmy
August 13, 2019 @ 3:53 pm
Hey Erik, yup, I’m familiar with the terms. No there’s no website for that. I mean there are Thai dating websites and apps like Tinder. But as far as a dedicated sugar daddy/sugar baby website there aren’t any. On face value this country is conservative. Though Thai men and Thai ladies actively use Facebook for such interactions.
Vinny
July 17, 2019 @ 4:57 pm
Hey Jimmy, that’s a hilarious write up. Great job. I’ve heard of some taking care of up to three but not six. Kudos to him for being able to do it and deal with them. Where is the hostess bar you mentioned in the article by the way? Cheers.
Jimmy
July 18, 2019 @ 10:01 pm
Hey Vinny, how’s it going? This place I go to I usually go with Thai friends. Even for me, I think these places can tolerate one foreigner. But if there’s a bunch I think the locals may not be too happy. But I really, really do not recommend going alone as a foreigner. Even if you speak fluent Thai. Which is one of the reasons why I do not list these places for people’s safety. I’m not saying it’s dangerous, not completely. But there’s also not a need to. You can find plenty of ladies in the red light districts.
But if I can find a place I know there’s relative safety on the outskirts of Bangkok I’ll definitely right about it here.
Vinny
July 21, 2019 @ 11:14 am
That’s actually very true Jimmy. Good idea to keep everyone safe and happy. I’m half Chinese Thai but grew up in the USA so don’t have issues at these places…pm me if you can. Cheers.
Jimmy
July 22, 2019 @ 5:50 am
Hey Vinny, yes, for you there shouldn’t be any issues at all. If your email is valid I’ll email you a place you can visit. It’s a place near Saphan Mai area near a large Thai air force base. I still don’t think you should go alone though so if you have a family friend or a cousin or whatever you can go with.
Eddie Jones
June 10, 2019 @ 10:45 pm
Wow this is really insightful! I wished I had read this 3 weeks ago…before I started spending more than 250k thb in gifts including branded bags and shoes on a ladyboy…
Mark
April 18, 2019 @ 1:41 pm
Jimmy, can you please give some info on live in mistress/housekeeper? Good, bad, is it common, costs etc.
Also, for mistress as you stated 15000 baht and 10000 for accommodation. What availability and exclusiveness would come with this?
Keep up the good work.
Jimmy
April 18, 2019 @ 3:09 pm
Hey Mark, there are a lot of factors in play. I’ll answer the second question first as it’s the easiest. Keeping a Thai mistress means she’s your wife or a girlfriend. So yeah, technically they shouldn’t be sleeping around with other men, except you. You can wake them up and visit them in the middle of the night. You have the keys to where they live cause you’re paying for it.
From my experience if you want a mistress that will clean and cook you have to go for the older women. Most younger Thai girls these days do not follow the path of the old ways. Most girls don’t know how to cook these days because they just buy food off the street markets because it’s easier and no mess. I mean there are exceptions of course but it could take time to find the right girl that will cook and clean, yet be beautiful young and sexy.
Myke
February 13, 2019 @ 8:14 pm
Jimmy, does sponsoring the girl is like some contract, where both parties sign or something? I guess not.
Also, should we pay the agreed upon amount before the month or after the month? Because girl might wonder if the guy will pay after the month or not, though a better solution can be pay in weekly installments I guess.
Jimmy
February 14, 2019 @ 12:56 pm
Hi Myke, there’s never a written contract. Suchat is just an extreme example and a guy with a decent heart. There are Thai guys that drop mistresses like an old shoe without a second thought.
I never asked Suchat when he pays. But when I had a mistress I paid first of the month. I suppose whoever you find you can strike out a deal and pay on a weekly basis.
Nate
February 13, 2019 @ 9:01 am
How much profit is this guy making at his butcher shop or he can afford 125000 baht a month. Surely he’s not chopping up pigs when he could pay someone a pack of peanuts to do it for him
Jimmy
February 13, 2019 @ 11:10 am
He’s from old money, Thai Chinese family with businesses way back when. And he doesn’t work alone or have to work. He has Burma and Laos workers. He works cause he likes to work.